Kansas City’s “Out There”: The 90’s Gay & Lesbian Variety Show Featuring Lea Hopkins

In 1993, a group of 16 people came together to launch Kansas City’s first-ever Gay and Lesbian Variety Show on American Cablevision in light of statewide, anti-queer legislation.

Disclaimer: Little information exists about “Out There,” and its tapings from American Cablevision outside of the scrapbook materials presented in this article. If you have any information about this program, including but not limited to evidence of the original tapes, please feel free to email us at nasir@kansascitydefender.com and/or donate any materials to the Gay & Lesbian Archives of Mid-America Kansas City at UMKC.

All of us have cared about being represented at one time or another. We remember the first times we’ve seen ourselves on tv, heard ourselves on the radio, and tasted our cultures outside of our homes; and maybe you’ve never experienced these before, and long for the day some entity will adequately capture your essence for the world to see.

You may have heard (or said) this before: that you cannot aspire to be what you cannot see. That despite our imaginations, there are distinctions that lie between dreams and reality.

But there’s more to it than that.

Before the concepts of visibility and representation were topics of public conversation, someone dreamed of performing––dreamed of a stage with a cast, all in front of a person and a camera. Some of that dreaming has, undoubtedly, led to the creation of these industries that so many historically oppressed groups are still battling to break into today. 

If white men can dream of harm and enact it in real-time; can’t we dream? Especially of something better?

Movies are one of the most readily drawn upon examples of representation. GLAAD’s 2021 Studio Responsibility Index––a report on LGBTQ+ diversity across major motion picture films––shows that, though, there is growth across various categories of queer representation, the overall numbers still do not adequately capture the full spectrum of LGBTQ+ community.

Only 22.8% of films from 2020 featured queer characters-––and of these characters, 55% were white, and majorly gay men. 0% of films featured a transgender or non-binary character, and this number has remained consistent for three years-––only being broken by Benderdict Cumberbatch’s controversial portrayal of a character named “All” in Zoolander 2

Representation means more than solely being a featured character. This character has to be written well, paid adequately, portrayed by someone who actually holds these identities, and bring real, untold stories to the main stage. And when the film industry doesn’t even so much as look like you, it becomes even harder to begin to tackle all these various components.

In the 90’s, a group of Kansas Citians challenged representation with “Out There,” a public access program on American Cablevision that featured queer people unfiltered. The group was known as the Human Rights Project (formerly known as the Human Rights Ordinance Project; not to be confused with the national organization)––and aimed to make voices heard amidst ongoing battle with queer civil rights legislation.

Pre-show: The fight for gay and lesbian civil rights protections

4 screencaps from "The Ordinance Project" featuring 4 news anchors discussing Ordinance 65430.

Screencaps from Austin R. Williams’ “The Ordinance Project.” Pictured on the left are various news stations reporting on Ordinance 65430. On the right are activists from ACT-UP Kansas City and the Human Rights Ordinance Project protesting during a Kansas City Council meeting in 1990. (Williams, 2018)

The birth of “Out There” was preceded by the infamous debacle over Ordinance 65430, also known as the Berkley-Shields Ordinance and, more commonly, the “Gay Rights Ordinance.”

Introduced on April 12th 1990, Ordinance 65430 was proposed to provide civil rights protections on the basis of sexual orientation ([HROP Miscellaneous], 1990).  Along with this was classifying HIV/AIDS as a disability, thus recognizing those with the disease as a protected category. With the rise in fear-mongering, hate crimes, and lack of state-sanctioned actions in concern with the AIDS pandemic during this time, tensions were heightened and this bill can be classified as one of Kansas City’s most controversial pieces in legislative history.

Ordinance 65430 was drafted through the collaboration of the Human Rights Ordinance Project (HROP), a subgroup of ACT-UP Kansas City, and Katheryn Shields, a Kansas City Council member. On the day of the Ordinance’s proposal, Mayor Richard L. Berkley signed as a co-sponsor of the ordinance––hence, Berkley-Shields (Barnett, 1990).


Various postcards created by HROP in a campaign to convince Kansas City Council members to approve the Berkley-Shields Human Rights Ordinance. ([HROP Flyers and Pamphlets], 1990)

But the powerhouses behind Ordinance 65430 were mainly HROP––who committed to several actions in pushing the ordinance ahead through tactics like rallies, phone-banks, newsletters, and more. More can be learned about Ordinance 65430 through “The Ordinance Project,” a film created by Dr, Austin Randall Williams.

Commercial Break: “Cleaver and the Klan go hand-in-hand,” addressing anti-Blackness in Kansas City’s Gay and Lesbian Community

A 1990 Kansas City Star article detailing HROP/ACT-UP KC’s harassment of Emmanuel Cleaver after the Berkley-Shields Ordinance was sent back to committee on May 10th, 1990. ([Madden’s Newspaper Clippings], 1990)

Because this is a Black newspaper, I think it’s extremely important to name some of the tactics used by HROP––regardless of whatever the ultimate goal of their group was.

During HROP’s organizing efforts, Emmanuel Cleaver quickly became a key figure in Ordinance 65430. Cleaver had ‘shaky stances’ as described by HROP members during the Ordinance’s move through legislature (Williams, 2018). With Cleaver being a Baptist and heavily involved in our local St. James United Methodist Church, it’s not surprising that people found his position on the Ordinance frustrating and unclear––namely on May 10, 1990 when he voted to send Ordinance 65430 back to Committee after it was brought up for an official vote to the City Council.

During a frustration-fueled demonstration on May 17, 1990, a few HROP members began chanting, “Cleaver and the Klan go hand-in-hand!,” a direct assault on Cleaver’s Blackness. Cleaver, in an interview with Austin Randall Williams for GLAMA’s Oral History Project, also addressed some of the racist comments made by white gay activists during their organizing efforts:

“Where I became angry was the barrage of phone calls. Many of those phone calls were extremely nasty, some of them racially nasty. I came in already sensitive to the issue, but there were other things that I did not understand. And those things are this: That people don’t go to the folk who are opposed to them. They always come and exercise that highest level of hostility toward the people who are already supportive.”

A marketing, physical mail campaign from the Human Rights Ordinance Project urging recipients to call the City Council and Mayor’s Office and demand support for the Berkley-Shields Ordinance. ([HROP Flyers and Pamphlets], 1990).

HROP would also tell its members to be “BRIEF AND POLITE” in a 1990 phone banking campaign to City Council and the Mayor’s Office, implying that Cleaver’s sentiments were true and that this was an ongoing issue.

Ultimately, Cleaver would end up voting for sexual orientation to be recognized as a protected category (Ordinance 903612) on June 3, 1993 after the tumultuous fight. Cleaver would also be the first Mayor to attend GALA’s 1991 Gay and Lesbian Pride Picnic, and also form a Commission on Lesbian and Gay Concerns in the same year.

I bring this information up not to defend Cleaver (nor any politician, for that matter) for inaction in the face of queer struggle. But I want to name this anti-Black action from gay activists, especially because various activists who were interviewed in 2018 about this continued to defend the use of the chant. The fight for civil rights protections while dually being racist and erasing Black, Queer people is illogical––and to quote everyone’s favorite line, “No one is free until we are all free.”

On-Air: Kansas City Alive presents….”Out There”

Logo/promotional card of Kansas City's Gay & Lesbian Variety Show, "Out There"
Musicians performing on Kansas City's Gay & Lesbian Variety Show, "Out There"

Pictured above (and in this article’s section) are artifacts from a scrapbook, created by Lea Hopkins, showcasing “Out There Kansas City: A Gay & Lesbian Varierty Show.” On the left is a logo/promotional card for the show’s (presumably) last episode on June 10th, 1994. On the right are unidentified musical guests performing on the show. ([Hopkins’ “Out There” Scrapbook], 1993-94)

After the victory of Ordinance 903612, HROP dropped the O from its name and began calling itself the Human Rights Project (HRP) in order to pursue initiatives beyond the Ordinance. In a typed statement made by Kay Madden (HRP’s acting legal aid) on November 3, 1993, she warns of a group named The Amendment Coalition and their plans to change the Missouri Constitution:

The Amendment Coalition, the group spearheading the drive to pass a Colorado-type restraint on Missouri’s power to pass laws to protect persons from discrimination based on sexual orientation, has gotten approval for the following language to appear on its petitions:

‘Shall the Constituion of Missouri be amended by adding a new Article which would prohibit the state of Missouri, through any of its branches, departments or agencies, and its political subdivisions, including counties, municipalities and school districts, form enacting, adopting or enforcing any statute, order, regulation, rule, ordinance, resolution or policy whereby homosexual, lesbian or bi-sexual activity, conduct or orientation entitle any person or class of persons to have or demand any minority status, protected status, quota preference, affirmative action or claim of discrimination?”

If the Coalition secures the necessary 130,000 signatures […] then the proposed amendment will appear on a state-wide ballot in November 1994.”

Kay Madden, Nov. 3, 1993
Run-of-show on chalkboard for Kansas City's Gay & Lesbian Variety Show, "Out There"
Planning board for Kansas City's Gay & Lesbian Variety Show, "Out There"

Pictured above are planning meetings for the variety show. On top is a chalkboard with an episode’s run-of-show schedule. On the bottom is a planning board for a topical news segment. ([Hopkins’ “Out There” Scrapbook], 1993-94)

With the Amendment Coalition threatening to undo the work HRP had accomplished in Kansas City, HRP decided to make themselves as visible as possible.

Commissioned by GLAAD and the Human Rights Project, Kansas City launched its first Gay and Lesbian produced variety show in October 1993. The show aired on American Cablevision’s public, local access channel “Kansas City Alive”––whose goal was to hone in on events and issues affecting the Kansas City area at the time. (Williams-Lindsey, n.d.)

Made up of 16 crewmembers, the show was expected to run on a monthly schedule. According to HRP Board Member and show producer, Terry Carlson, the show was in-part created to “unify the community to defeat the [statewide anti-Lesbian and Gay] initiative.”

The 30-minute variety show, as its moniker implies, featured various segments consisting of news reports, musical guests and various other entertainment, and even featured household name Lea Hopkins as a reporter for GLAAD [more on Lea later in this piece]. In their first episode, HRP Member Scott DeLong would call out The Amendment Coalition’s actions in a segment as well.

The first episode aired on Oct 12th, 1993 at 8pm on cable channel 4/KCCP-TV. Archival records seem to indicate that the show ran for about 7 or 8 episodes before it ultimately closed out.

According to a July 11, 1994 article by AP News, however, the Amendment Coalition would fail to garner the signatures needed to appear on the Missouri ballot—proving HRP victorious once again.

Home screening of Kansas City's Gay & Lesbian Variety Show, "Out There"
Home screening of Kansas City's Gay & Lesbian Variety Show, "Out There"

Pictured above is a group of Lea’s friends and family gathered to watch the first screening of the variety show on Oct. 12th, 1993. ([Hopkins’ “Out There” Scrapbook], 1993)

Commercial Break: Lea Hopkins

Lea Hopkins on Kansas City's Gay & Lesbian Variety Show, "Out There"

Lea Hopkins preparing to give her segment during the World Aids Day episode of Out There on Dec. 1st, 1993. ([Hopkins’ “Out There” Scrapbook], 1993)

Lea Hopkins has been an instrumental Black, Lesbian organizer in Kansas City for decades. Hopkins was behind the first Gay Pride Parade in Kansas City in 1979, and 43 years later was a Grand Marshall for Kansas City’s Pride Alliance Parade earlier this year. Because of her work, she has undoubtedly pushed acceptance for Black Queer people to once unthinkable heights in the Midwest. Hopkins’ role on Out There was to serve as a spokesperson for GLAAD, presumably because of her extensive involvement with the organization. Listen to Lea Hopkins’ interview with Austin R. Williams, as part of GLAMA’s Oral History project, here as she discusses her early days, moving to New York and becoming involved with Christopher Street, and organizing the first Gay Pride Parade in Kansas City.

After-show: where do we go from here?

Pictured above are both a handwritten and printed list of organizations that supported the Human Rights Ordinance–including Black and White Men Together Kansas City. ([Hopkins’ “Out There” Scrapbook], 1990)

A big question you have is probably, “Where are the tapes?” I have the same question. 

A quick search of American Cablevision on YouTube and Google will garner various videos from the 90’s. Because of the state of HIV/AIDS and queer rights in Kansas City at the time, I can only assume those affiliated with American Cablevision did not take dutiful care to preserve this monumental program.

Circling back to representation, it’s never as simple as wanting to “see people who look like you.” For HRP in the 90’s, being hyper-visible was a tool used to fight for basic human rights. And then having to continue fighting so these rights weren’t taken away.

We often forget that at one point or another, remaining hidden was a means of creating safe spaces and protection. And that’s not to say we should hide, but it is to say we need to continue challenging the systems that force us to hide behind the camera. Because Black Queer people are out there, and are ready to be seen.

Lea Hopkins and Nasir Anthony Montalvo at No Divide KC’s Glamour Gala on Nov. 8th, 2022.


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Lea Hopkins' Scrapbook Cover on Kansas City's Gay & Lesbian Variety Show, "Out There"

The cover of Lea Hopkins’ scrapbook detailing the “Out There” program. Based on a conversation we had on August 2nd, 2022, she retains little memory of the era. The scrapbook illuminates with Lea’s personality as various pictures are tacked with speech bubbles, like the ones shown here, that have her own storytelling of events. Also on this cover is a cut-out article written by Jon Barnett on Oct 8-21, 1993 for the Lesbian And Gay News Telegraph; titled “Public Access TV Program ‘Out There,’ Lea Hopkins is mentioned along with several other HRP members. Barnett’s article has served as the foundation for this piece’s research.


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